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  • Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter – November 1, 2024

    ZIFL – Volume 28 Number 21

    Posted on November 1, 2024 by Barry Zalma

    Post 4924

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    Subscribe to ZIFL at https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin?v=001Gb86hroKqEYVdo-PWnMUkcitKvwMc3HNWiyrn6jw8ERzpnmgU_oNjTrm1U1YGZ7_ay4AZ7_mCLQBKsXokYWFyD_Xo_zMFYUMovVTCgTAs7liC1eR4LsDBrk2zBNDMBPp7Bq0VeAA-SNvk6xgrgl8dNR0BjCMTm_gE7bAycDEHwRXFAoyVjSABkXPPaG2Jb3SEvkeZXRXPDs%3D

    The Source for the Insurance Fraud Professional

    Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter (ZIFL) continues its 28th year of publication dedicated to those involved in reducing the effect of insurance fraud. ZIFL is published 24 times a year by ClaimSchool and is written by Barry Zalma. It is provided FREE to anyone who visits the site at http://zalma.com/zalmas-insurance-fraud-letter-2/ This issue contains the following articles about insurance fraud:

    Pill Mill Doctor’s Conviction Affirmed

    HEALTH CARE FRAUD CONVICTION AFFIRMED

    ACTING AS A DR. FEEL GOOD IS A FEDERAL CRIME

    According to the Sixth Circuit Dr. David Jankowski’s medical clinics relied on several unusual billing and prescription practices, many of which were illegal and Jankowski fraudulently billed Medicare for services he did not provide and prescribed controlled substances to patients whose conditions did not call for such treatment, with some patients unlawfully trafficking their prescribed drugs.

    In United States Of America v. David Jankowski, M.D., No. 23-1404, United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit (October 23, 2024) the Sixth Circuit disposed of the fraudsters claims on appeal.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    More McClenny Moseley & Associates Issues

    This is ZIFL’s thirty sixth installment of the saga of McClenny, Moseley & Associates and its problems with the federal courts in the State of Louisiana and what appears to be an effort to profit from what some Magistrate and District judges indicate may be criminal conduct to profit from insurance claims relating to hurricane damage to the public of the state of Louisiana.

    10/24/2024

    MMA BANKRUPTCY HEARING TO DECIDE WHETHER TRUSTEE WILL BE APPOINTED

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Injured While Drunk on the Job Gets Workers’ Compensation Benefits

    An appellate court in New York has upheld a decision of the Workers’ Compensation Board in favor of an injured employee of an electrical contractor company because intoxication was not the sole cause of the accident.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Man Bites Dog Story:

    Fraudsters Arbitration Attempts Stopped

    Arbitration Stayed for Suspected Chiropractors’ Fraudulent No Fault Medical Claims

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    In Government Employees Insurance Company, (“GEICO”) v. Didier Demesmin, M.D., et al, No. 23-CV-6191 (ARR) (MMH), United States District Court, E.D. New York (October 23, 2024) GEICO sought to enjoin defendants Manuel A. Mendoza, D.C. and Mendoza Chiropractic Office PC (collectively the “Mendoza Defendants”) from pursuing certain “no-fault” insurance collection arbitrations or initiating new collections proceedings during the pendency of this lawsuit.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Health Insurance Fraud Convictions

    Louisiana Nursing Home Owner to Pay $8.2M for Misusing Assets During Ida

    Bob Dean Jr a Louisiana nursing home owner and several companies he operated have agreed to an $8.2 million consent judgment to resolve allegations that they misappropriated and misused the assets and income of four nursing homes in Louisiana before and after Hurricane Ida’s landfall in August 2021.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Officer Caught Aiding Criminals for Cash

    Police Officer who took Bribes from Insurance Fraudster Convicted

    Demarkco Johnson (“Johnson”), appealed his convictions for taking bribes about insurance fraud.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Convictions of Other Than Health Insurance Fraud

    Former Lake Forest Agent Convicted On 90 Counts Of Insurance Fraud After Stealing Nearly $200,000 In Premium Payments

    Karen Marie Dondanville, 56, of Mission Viejo, California, a former Lake Forest insurance agent was convicted on 90 counts of insurance fraud after stealing nearly $200,000 in premium payments.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    The Need to Understand the Mutability of Memory

    Investigators and lawyers believe what they are told by eye witnesses who describe what he or she says with conviction. However, every professional investigator or litigator must know that memory is not necessarily accurate because very few people have a perfect eidetic (photographic) memory. Memory is a fluid and often unreliable human function.

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf

    Barry Zalma, Inc., 4441 Sepulveda Boulevard, CULVER CITY CA 90230-4847, 310-390-4455. Subscribe to Excellence in Claims Handling at https://barryzalma.substack.com/welcome. Go to the podcast Zalma On Insurance at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/barry-zalma/support; Write to Mr. Zalma at [email protected]; http://www.zalma.com; http://zalma.com/blog. Go to Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter at https://zalma.com/zalmas-insurance-fraud-letter-2/; Go to X @bzalma; Go to Barry Zalma videos at Rumble.com at https://rumble.com/c/c-262921; Go to the Insurance Claims Library – https://zalma.com/blog/insurance-claims-library/ and GTTR at https://gettr.com/@zalma

    Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf
    Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter – November 1, 2024 ZIFL – Volume 28 Number 21 Posted on November 1, 2024 by Barry Zalma Post 4924 See the full video at and at Subscribe to ZIFL at https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin?v=001Gb86hroKqEYVdo-PWnMUkcitKvwMc3HNWiyrn6jw8ERzpnmgU_oNjTrm1U1YGZ7_ay4AZ7_mCLQBKsXokYWFyD_Xo_zMFYUMovVTCgTAs7liC1eR4LsDBrk2zBNDMBPp7Bq0VeAA-SNvk6xgrgl8dNR0BjCMTm_gE7bAycDEHwRXFAoyVjSABkXPPaG2Jb3SEvkeZXRXPDs%3D The Source for the Insurance Fraud Professional Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter (ZIFL) continues its 28th year of publication dedicated to those involved in reducing the effect of insurance fraud. ZIFL is published 24 times a year by ClaimSchool and is written by Barry Zalma. It is provided FREE to anyone who visits the site at http://zalma.com/zalmas-insurance-fraud-letter-2/ This issue contains the following articles about insurance fraud: Pill Mill Doctor’s Conviction Affirmed HEALTH CARE FRAUD CONVICTION AFFIRMED ACTING AS A DR. FEEL GOOD IS A FEDERAL CRIME According to the Sixth Circuit Dr. David Jankowski’s medical clinics relied on several unusual billing and prescription practices, many of which were illegal and Jankowski fraudulently billed Medicare for services he did not provide and prescribed controlled substances to patients whose conditions did not call for such treatment, with some patients unlawfully trafficking their prescribed drugs. In United States Of America v. David Jankowski, M.D., No. 23-1404, United States Court of Appeals, Sixth Circuit (October 23, 2024) the Sixth Circuit disposed of the fraudsters claims on appeal. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf More McClenny Moseley & Associates Issues This is ZIFL’s thirty sixth installment of the saga of McClenny, Moseley & Associates and its problems with the federal courts in the State of Louisiana and what appears to be an effort to profit from what some Magistrate and District judges indicate may be criminal conduct to profit from insurance claims relating to hurricane damage to the public of the state of Louisiana. 10/24/2024 MMA BANKRUPTCY HEARING TO DECIDE WHETHER TRUSTEE WILL BE APPOINTED Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Injured While Drunk on the Job Gets Workers’ Compensation Benefits An appellate court in New York has upheld a decision of the Workers’ Compensation Board in favor of an injured employee of an electrical contractor company because intoxication was not the sole cause of the accident. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Man Bites Dog Story: Fraudsters Arbitration Attempts Stopped Arbitration Stayed for Suspected Chiropractors’ Fraudulent No Fault Medical Claims Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf In Government Employees Insurance Company, (“GEICO”) v. Didier Demesmin, M.D., et al, No. 23-CV-6191 (ARR) (MMH), United States District Court, E.D. New York (October 23, 2024) GEICO sought to enjoin defendants Manuel A. Mendoza, D.C. and Mendoza Chiropractic Office PC (collectively the “Mendoza Defendants”) from pursuing certain “no-fault” insurance collection arbitrations or initiating new collections proceedings during the pendency of this lawsuit. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Health Insurance Fraud Convictions Louisiana Nursing Home Owner to Pay $8.2M for Misusing Assets During Ida Bob Dean Jr a Louisiana nursing home owner and several companies he operated have agreed to an $8.2 million consent judgment to resolve allegations that they misappropriated and misused the assets and income of four nursing homes in Louisiana before and after Hurricane Ida’s landfall in August 2021. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Officer Caught Aiding Criminals for Cash Police Officer who took Bribes from Insurance Fraudster Convicted Demarkco Johnson (“Johnson”), appealed his convictions for taking bribes about insurance fraud. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Convictions of Other Than Health Insurance Fraud Former Lake Forest Agent Convicted On 90 Counts Of Insurance Fraud After Stealing Nearly $200,000 In Premium Payments Karen Marie Dondanville, 56, of Mission Viejo, California, a former Lake Forest insurance agent was convicted on 90 counts of insurance fraud after stealing nearly $200,000 in premium payments. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf The Need to Understand the Mutability of Memory Investigators and lawyers believe what they are told by eye witnesses who describe what he or she says with conviction. However, every professional investigator or litigator must know that memory is not necessarily accurate because very few people have a perfect eidetic (photographic) memory. Memory is a fluid and often unreliable human function. Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf Barry Zalma, Inc., 4441 Sepulveda Boulevard, CULVER CITY CA 90230-4847, 310-390-4455. Subscribe to Excellence in Claims Handling at https://barryzalma.substack.com/welcome. Go to the podcast Zalma On Insurance at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/barry-zalma/support; Write to Mr. Zalma at [email protected]; http://www.zalma.com; http://zalma.com/blog. Go to Zalma’s Insurance Fraud Letter at https://zalma.com/zalmas-insurance-fraud-letter-2/; Go to X @bzalma; Go to Barry Zalma videos at Rumble.com at https://rumble.com/c/c-262921; Go to the Insurance Claims Library – https://zalma.com/blog/insurance-claims-library/ and GTTR at https://gettr.com/@zalma Read the full article and all 18 pages of ZIFL at https://zalma.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/ZIFL-11-01-2024.pdf
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